Episode 18 - Unsettling Truths, White Trauma, and the Devastating Doctrine of Discovery
Mark Charles joins the show today in a conversation about race and conciliation for the nation. Mark is a speaker, writer, and consultant, and his book Unsettling Truths inspired Rob to reach out for this episode. You can learn more about Mark at wirelesshogan.com, and purchase his book here. See below for more links mentioned in the show!
0:00 Intro
0:43 Episode starts
1:43 Jes checks in with Rob
3:55 Rob checks in with Jes
6:43 Mark joins the conversation
7:01 Mark gives a traditional introduction
8:34 Jes provides some background on Mark
9:34 What is your story?
21:05 What is the doctrine of discovery?
26:59 What role do narratives play in perpetuating unjust systems?
32:29 Interlude
34:36 What is historical trauma?
46:31 Has your book had the response you were hoping for, and is it playing the role you wanted?
51:52 What role can listeners play
58:21 Debrief
59:17 Rob's takeaways
62:06 Jes's takeaways
71:00 Outro
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Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
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Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave Audio
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