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What Trees Tell Us About Racism

Tune in to hear Katie Rose Levin, Executive Director of TreesDurham, talk about how trees are the perfect technology to making us happy, healthy, and wealthy and to bringing economic justice to the world.

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  • 0:00 Episode starts 

  • 0:43 Personal check-ins start

  • 1:20 Jes talks about being grateful to be alive during this time to see humanity and the waking up

  • 4:01 Jes talks about going to the mountains with her son and mom as an annual retreat

  • 5:37 Rob talks about loving buying his kids holiday presents because this is the age he remembers what presents he had

  • 8:08 Katie Rose Levin, Executive Director of TreesDurham, joins the call

  • 9:08 Rob introduces Katie Rose

  • 11:57 Rob asks Katie Rose why trees

  • 12:07 Katie Rose talks about how trees are the perfect technology to making us happy, healthy, and wealthy and to bring economic justice to the world

  • 16:03 Jes asks Katie Rose where her passion comes from and what led her to this career

  • 16:13 Katie Rose talks about growing up in the middle of nowhere and the woods being a refuge for her

  • 16:38 Katie Rose talks about leading trips down to the Amazon forest during college

  • 17:29 Katie Rose talks about being inspired by women of color in Atlanta who organized to push for better air quality for their children

  • 20:55 Rob asks about the history of Durham’s trees and the roles they have played in perpetuating injustice in the community

  • 22:50 Katie Rose talks about the redlining that happened in Durham in the 40s and how trees were a part of the resources allocated to white communities only

  • 25:50 Interlude

  • 27:47 Jes asks if she had a magic wand how she would solve this problem of environmental injustice at the larger scale that can be modeled in communities across the country

  • 28:05 Katie Rose talks about the importance of valuing the people in front of you and nature being a part of what they deserve as humans

  • 29:05 Katie Rose talks about going to work and bringing your whole person so that you can reflect on how decisions affect yourself and your family and giving that accessibility to everyone

  • 34:58 Rob asks Katie Rose gives her hope that we can make more meaningful change

  • 36:32 Katie Rose talks about having hope because she is surrounded by it

  • 38:06 Jes asks Katie Rose for one thing people can do to push forward and show-up

  • 38:59 Katie Rose talks about little seeds growing into trees of justice 

  • 41:52 Katie Rose signs off the conversation

  • 44:58 Rob asks Jes what stood out most to her

  • 46:03 Jes talks about seeing the environmental injustice in a more heavy light and having a new outlook to the relevance and importance of this work

  • 47:40 Rob talks about the importance of seeing the whole justice ecosystem as an ecosystem

  • 52:00 Rob shares the TreesDurham website to follow along with their newsletter and see volunteer opportunities

  • 54:00 Conversation ends

  • 54:02 Outro

54:21 Preview of next episode, a compilation of all of the previous show-up moments

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