Just Mercy Pt.2 - Ep. 5

Rob and Jes bring in the Durham County District Attorney to discuss the movie Just Mercy and the criminal justice system. Satana Deberry, District Attorney of Durham County, shares her journey in the justice system and things she’s learned along the way.

Quick Episode Summary

  • :19 Intro!

  • 1:05 Personal Checkin

  • Jes celebrates another year around the sun with friends and perspective. 

  • Rob's 2-year-old son just got out of a cast from a broken leg and has not slowed down. 

  • 3:33 Introduction of Satana Deberry (Durham Co. District Attorney)

  • 4:45 Satana Deberry's background and her "why."

  • Locally born and raised 

  • Educated at Duke

  • Practiced law in her home town and discovered her "why."

  • 8:43 Satana's thoughts on Just Mercy and the timing of the film's release. 

  • 11:03 Who is the client of the District Attorney's office?

  • Working for the citizens of Durham county.

  • Getting to the most just outcome.

  • 12:55 Sponsor Break

  • 13:15 What are you losing sleep over as the District Attorney?

  • Being under the microscope as a public figure. 

  • The dirty little secret of the criminal justice system. 

  • 16:20 Waving the magic wand and the one big fix to overhaul the criminal justice system.

  • 19:42 The Show Up Moment: 

  • Don't be afraid to learn. 

  • Don't be afraid to have tough conversations with your circle. 

  • 22:55 Episode Debrief and first reactions.

  • The power of proximity 

  • The limitations of doing the work as it currently is asked of us. 

  • 27:48 Outro

Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!

 Follow DJ Pdogg online:

  • www.djpdogg.com

Our Guest

  • Satana Deberry, Durham County District Attorney's Office.

Articles and Links mentioned by Rob and Jes

  • Capitol Broadcasting Podcast Network

  • Just Mercy - Movie

  • Just Mercy - Book

  • Equal Justice Initiative

  • Dominique Gilliard - Rethinking Incarceration (Book)

  • Just Mercy discussion guide

  • The Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass Incarceration. 

  • The National Memorial for Peace and Justice


Our sponsors:

  • ReCity Network

  • Coastal Credit Union

Our hosts:

  • Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming

  • Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.

Our Producer:

  • Michael Baylor